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	<title>Comments on: Forests and Climate Change, Not Clearcut</title>
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		<title>By: Clearcutting, Climate Change, and the Center for Biological Diversity &#171; Timberati</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2010/02/04/forests-and-climate-change-not-clearcut/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Clearcutting, Climate Change, and the Center for Biological Diversity &#171; Timberati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Perception trumps truth and the California Air Resources Board has caved to political pressure from CBD and its ilk, reversing its earlier decisions on carbon protocols. We should not be skipping and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Perception trumps truth and the California Air Resources Board has caved to political pressure from CBD and its ilk, reversing its earlier decisions on carbon protocols. We should not be skipping and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: florida health insurance</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2010/02/04/forests-and-climate-change-not-clearcut/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>florida health insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the hypothesis was that the increase in CO2 would cause increased water vapor at the equator and form a hot spot in the upper troposphere. Despite all the hooha about it. This hot spot has never been observed. Water vapor is a more efficient absorber of heat than CO2. The basic problems appear to be that the models that predict all of this stuff ignore negative feedbacks from clouds and other things in the correct manner. When you get water vapor up high enough, and high enough is not all that high, it forms clouds. Clouds increase the albedo of the earth and re-radiate the energy. Sad but the vested interests of klimatic kleptocracy (sic) will not cave into science easily. Al Gorge has made 200 mn peddling his rot. Others around are like him. Do not expect them to throw in the towel just because they have been proved to be wrong. [You can never prove a model to be right, but you can prove that a model can fail. The CO2 model is failing.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the hypothesis was that the increase in CO2 would cause increased water vapor at the equator and form a hot spot in the upper troposphere. Despite all the hooha about it. This hot spot has never been observed. Water vapor is a more efficient absorber of heat than CO2. The basic problems appear to be that the models that predict all of this stuff ignore negative feedbacks from clouds and other things in the correct manner. When you get water vapor up high enough, and high enough is not all that high, it forms clouds. Clouds increase the albedo of the earth and re-radiate the energy. Sad but the vested interests of klimatic kleptocracy (sic) will not cave into science easily. Al Gorge has made 200 mn peddling his rot. Others around are like him. Do not expect them to throw in the towel just because they have been proved to be wrong. [You can never prove a model to be right, but you can prove that a model can fail. The CO2 model is failing.]</p>
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