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		<title>Weekend Postcard: Our Big Blue Marble</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2012/02/04/weekend-postcard-our-big-blue-marble/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a title="(Image Credit: NASA/NOAA/GSFC/Suomi NPP/VIIRS/Norman Kuring)" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/6760135001/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6760135001_58b1c5c5f0.jpg" rel="lightbox5239" alt="Most Amazing High Definition Image of Earth - Blue Marble 2012" width="500" height="500" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">(Image Credit: NASA/NOAA/GSFC/Suomi NPP/VIIRS/Norman Kuring)</p> <p>The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) says this, &#8220;&#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; image of the Earth&#8221; was &#8220;taken from the VIIRS instrument aboard NASA&#8217;s most recently launched Earth-observing satellite &#8211; Suomi NPP. This composite image uses a number of swaths of the Earth&#8217;s surface taken on January 4, 2012&#8243;and released January 25, 2012.</p> Related articles <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/03/second_suomi_blue_marble/">Second &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; NASA sat pic apes Apollo 17&#8242;s stunner &#8211; Register</a> (theregister.co.uk) <a href="http://taholtorf.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/a-new-blue-marble/">A new [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a title="(Image Credit: NASA/NOAA/GSFC/Suomi NPP/VIIRS/Norman Kuring)" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/6760135001/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6760135001_58b1c5c5f0.jpg" rel="lightbox5239" alt="Most Amazing High Definition Image of Earth - Blue Marble 2012" width="500" height="500" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">(Image Credit: NASA/NOAA/GSFC/Suomi NPP/VIIRS/Norman Kuring)</p></div>
<p>The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) says this, &#8220;&#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; image of the Earth&#8221; was &#8220;taken from the VIIRS instrument aboard NASA&#8217;s most recently launched Earth-observing satellite &#8211; Suomi NPP. This composite image uses a number of swaths of the Earth&#8217;s surface taken on January 4, 2012&#8243;and released January 25, 2012.</p>
<h6 class="zemanta-related-title" style="font-size: 1em;">Related articles</h6>
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<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/03/second_suomi_blue_marble/">Second &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; NASA sat pic apes Apollo 17&#8242;s stunner &#8211; Register</a> (theregister.co.uk)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://taholtorf.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/a-new-blue-marble/">A new &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217;</a> (taholtorf.wordpress.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-viirs-eastern-hemisphere-image-scenes.html">VIIRS eastern hemisphere image: Behind the scenes</a> (physorg.com)</li>
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		<title>Cal-Fire&#8217;s Seasonal Firefighter 2012 Application Deadline: January 29</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2012/01/25/cal-fires-seasonal-firefighter-2012-application-deadline-january-29/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>With less than a week, applicants need to get the paperwork in quickly.</p> <p></p> ]]></description>
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		<title>&#8216;Sustainable&#8217; projected to remain &#8216;robust&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2012/01/23/sustainable-projected-to-remain-robust/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">This <a class="zem_slink" title="Xkcd" href="http://xkcd.com/" rel="homepage">XKCD</a> cartoon by <a class="zem_slink" title="Randall Munroe" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Munroe" rel="wikipedia">Randall Munroe</a> lampoons the notion of extrapolating anything far into the future. <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buzzword" target="_blank">Buzzwords</a> gain momentum, but then fall out of favor. Buzzwords, from my memory, that have had their place in the sun include: relevant, viable, resonate, robust. Let me <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>utilize</em></span> a <a class="zem_slink" title="Normal distribution" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution" rel="wikipedia">Gaussian distribution</a> curve to illustrate. Any others? <img class="alignnone" title="sustainable" src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sustainable.png" alt="" width="694" height="558" /></span></p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">This <a class="zem_slink" title="Xkcd" href="http://xkcd.com/" rel="homepage">XKCD</a> cartoon by <a class="zem_slink" title="Randall Munroe" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Munroe" rel="wikipedia">Randall Munroe</a> lampoons the notion of extrapolating anything far into the future. <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buzzword" target="_blank">Buzzwords</a> gain momentum, but then fall out of favor. Buzzwords, from my memory, that have had their place in the sun include: relevant, viable, resonate, robust. Let me <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>utilize</em></span> a <a class="zem_slink" title="Normal distribution" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution" rel="wikipedia">Gaussian distribution</a> curve to illustrate. Any others?<br />
<img class="alignnone" title="sustainable" src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sustainable.png" alt="" width="694" height="558" /></span></p>
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		<title>Weekend Postcards of Deforestation</title>
		<link>http://normbenson.com/timberati/2012/01/21/weekend-postcards-of-deforestation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">I know the Weekend Postcards are normally devoid of argument and point making. But, I thought it would be fun to look at <a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2010/03/30/have-one-half-of-the-world%e2%80%99s-forests-been-converted-to-non-forest-use/" target="_blank">deforestation</a> differently. To see that deforestation is not necessarily the result of logging (illegal or otherwise). Deforestation comes about from people using the land. Agriculture heads up the list of deforestation causes followed by wood gathering for heating and cooking</span><span style="font-family: lucida grande;"> [Source: <a href="http://www.fao.org/forestry/fra/fra2010/en">Global <span class="zem_slink">Forest</span> Resource Assessment 2010</a> - <a href="http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/40893/icode/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">Key Findings</span></a>]. Fires, <a class="zem_slink" title="Slash-and-burn" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn" rel="wikipedia">slash and burn agriculture</a>, mining, and hydro-electric [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">I know the Weekend Postcards are normally devoid of argument and point making. But, I thought it would be fun to look at <a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2010/03/30/have-one-half-of-the-world%e2%80%99s-forests-been-converted-to-non-forest-use/" target="_blank">deforestation</a> differently. To see that deforestation is not necessarily the result of logging (illegal or otherwise). Deforestation comes about from people using the land. Agriculture heads up the list of deforestation causes followed by wood gathering for heating and cooking</span><span style="font-family: lucida grande;"> [Source: <a href="http://www.fao.org/forestry/fra/fra2010/en">Global <span class="zem_slink">Forest</span> Resource Assessment 2010</a> - <a href="http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/40893/icode/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">Key Findings</span></a>]. Fires, <a class="zem_slink" title="Slash-and-burn" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn" rel="wikipedia">slash and burn agriculture</a>, mining, and hydro-electric projects also contribute to deforestation. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;"> <a class="zem_slink" title="Agriculture" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture" rel="wikipedia">Agriculture</a> and heating/cooking head the list of causes of deforestation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">Once the primary causes of deforestation are obvious, it becomes equally obvious that lowering the demand for wood (by using less wood or substitutes) will not make a difference in lessening world deforestation. It&#8217;s not the demand for lumber or paper that drives deforestation, it&#8217;s the demand for food and heating/cooking supplies.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">Deforestation results from people trying to survive by eking livings from the land. &#8221;Some 350 million people in tropical countries are forest dwellers who derive half or more of their income from the forest. Forests provide directly 10 percent of the employment in developing countries,&#8221; says Jeffrey Sayer, <a title="Director-general" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director-general" rel="wikipedia">Director General</a> of the <a title="Center for International Forestry Research" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_International_Forestry_Research" rel="wikipedia">Center for International Forestry Research</a> (CIFOR), based in <a title="Bogor" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogor" rel="wikipedia">Bogor, Indonesia</a>, which researches better ways to manage and preserve existing forests. CIFOR is one of two CGIAR research institutes that specialize in tropical forestry. A <a href="http://www.cgiar.org/newsroom/releases/news.asp?idnews=196" target="_blank">1996 report</a> by the <a href="http://www.cgiar.org/who/index.html" target="_blank">Consultative Group on International Research</a> (<a title="Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research" href="http://www.cgiar.org/" rel="homepage">CGIAR</a>) states that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">[T]he main threat to tropical forests comes from poor farmers who have no other option to feeding their families other than <a title="Slash and burn" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_and_burn" rel="wikipedia">slashing and burning</a> a patch of forest and growing <a title="Agriculture" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture" rel="wikipedia">food crops</a> until the soil is exhausted after a few harvests, which then forces them to move on to a new patch of forest land. Slash-and-burn agriculture results in the loss or degradation of some 25 million acres of land per year (10 million hectares).</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family: lucida grande;">This means that nearly 80% of tropical deforestation in 1995 came from subsistence farmers. (Source: <a href="ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/008/A0400E/A0400E17.pdf">FAO, Annex 6<br />
Earlier global assessments, page 320</a>)<br />
</span></p>
<div id="attachment_5173" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 674px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2012/01/14/weekend-postcard-alexander-valley/dsc04405/" rel="attachment wp-att-5173"><img class=" wp-image-5173  " title="Vineyard. Alexander Valley area" src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/DSC04405.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="664" height="525" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Vineyard. Alexander Valley area</p></div>
<div id="attachment_4406" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 895px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2011/03/05/weekend-postacards-from-the-cascade-range/dsc03921/" rel="attachment wp-att-4406"><img class=" wp-image-4406" title="Siskiyou county area" src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/DSC03921.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="885" height="663" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Siskiyou county area</p></div>
<div id="attachment_4387" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 870px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2011/02/20/weekend-postcard-vineyard-lake-county-california/vineyard-lake-county-california/" rel="attachment wp-att-4387"><img class=" wp-image-4387  " title="Wine grape Vineyard after snowstorm. Lake County, California" src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/Vineyard-Lake-County-California.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="860" height="645" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Wine grape Vineyard after snowstorm. Lake County, California</p></div>
<div id="attachment_4934" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 943px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2011/12/17/timberatis-weekend-postcards-usa-road-trip-left-coast-to-east-coast/dsc01417/" rel="attachment wp-att-4934"><img class=" wp-image-4934  " title="Corn field near Cooperstown, New York" src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/DSC01417.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="933" height="700" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Corn field near Cooperstown, New York</p></div>
<div id="attachment_4764" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 897px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2011/12/01/working-landscapes-environmental-correctness/dsc01277/" rel="attachment wp-att-4764"><img class=" wp-image-4764  " title="Farms may appear idyllic, but they are not ideal from an environmental perspective" src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/DSC01277.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="887" height="629" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Farms may appear idyllic, but they are not ideal from an environmental perspective</p></div>
<div id="attachment_1311" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 870px"><a href="http://normbenson.com/timberati/2009/02/18/what-is-deforestation/vineyard/" rel="attachment wp-att-1311"><img class=" wp-image-1311  " title="Vineyard, Napa County, CA.  Agriculture is a primary cause of deforestation." src="http://normbenson.com/timberati/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/vineyard.jpg" rel="lightbox5202" alt="" width="860" height="645" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Vineyard, Napa County, CA.  Agriculture is a primary cause of deforestation.</p></div>
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		<title>Discussing &#8220;Working Landscapes, Working Waterscapes&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/32173234@N00/189813153"><img class="zemanta-img-inserted zemanta-img-configured" title="Hetch Hetchy reservoir. Image by Phil Eager via Flickr" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/57/189813153_083a66cc61_m.jpg" rel="lightbox5189" alt="Hetch Hetchy" width="240" height="168" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hetch Hetchy reservoir. Image by Phil Eager via Flickr</p> <p>I attended a panel discussion at the <a title="California Historical Society" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Historical_Society" rel="wikipedia">California Historical Society</a>, January 18, 2012 about appropriate land uses on <a class="zem_slink" title="Public land" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_land" rel="wikipedia">public land</a>. It was titled <a href="http://west.stanford.edu/events/working-landscapes-working-waterscapes" target="_blank">Working Landscapes, Working Waterscapes</a>. Its purpose was to explore how we might &#8220;build a consensus&#8221; and perhaps &#8220;change the ways we think about and manage cultural and working landscapes within parks, natural areas, and wildernesses.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/32173234@N00/189813153"><img class="zemanta-img-inserted zemanta-img-configured" title="Hetch Hetchy reservoir. Image by Phil Eager via Flickr" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/57/189813153_083a66cc61_m.jpg" rel="lightbox5189" alt="Hetch Hetchy" width="240" height="168" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hetch Hetchy reservoir. Image by Phil Eager via Flickr</p></div>
<p>I attended a panel discussion at the <a title="California Historical Society" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Historical_Society" rel="wikipedia">California Historical Society</a>, January 18, 2012 about appropriate land uses on <a class="zem_slink" title="Public land" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_land" rel="wikipedia">public land</a>. It was titled <a href="http://west.stanford.edu/events/working-landscapes-working-waterscapes" target="_blank">Working Landscapes, Working Waterscapes</a>. Its purpose was to explore how we might &#8220;build a consensus&#8221; and perhaps &#8220;change the ways we think about and manage cultural and working landscapes within parks, natural areas, and wildernesses.&#8221; Is there a way we could &#8220;become better stewards of our public lands?&#8221;</p>
<p>The panel consisted of:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://west.stanford.edu/node/89" target="_blank"><strong>Jon Christensen</strong></a>, Moderator. He is currently the Executive Director of the <a href="http://west.stanford.edu/" target="_blank">Bill Lane Center for the American West</a> at <a class="zem_slink" title="Stanford University" href="http://www.stanford.edu/" rel="homepage">Stanford University</a> and is an award-winning journalist. According to the bio, his dissertation, &#8216;&#8221;Critical Habitat,&#8221; is a history of ideas, narratives, science, land use change, and practices of conservation surrounding the threatened <a class="zem_slink" title="Bay Checkerspot" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Checkerspot" rel="wikipedia">bay checkerspot butterfly</a>.<strong></strong></li>
<li><strong>Richard Walker</strong>, geographer, <a title="University of California, Berkeley" href="http://berkeley.edu" rel="homepage">UC Berkeley</a>, author of <a href="http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-05-15/entertainment/17243250_1_walker-insider-growth-control" target="_blank"><em>The Country in the City: The Greening of the San Francisco Bay Area</em></a>.<strong></strong></li>
<li><strong>Amy Meyer</strong>, author of <a href="http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520235342" target="_blank"><em>New Guardians for the Golden Gate: How America Got a Great National Park.</em></a><strong></strong></li>
<li><strong>Kelly Cash</strong>, Environmental Consultant; formerly with The <a title="The Nature Conservancy" href="http://www.nature.org/" rel="homepage">Nature Conservancy</a> and now with <a title="Restore Hetch Hetchy" href="http://www.hetchhetchy.org/" rel="homepage">Restore Hetch Hetchy</a></li>
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<p>I captured as much as I could from the discussion. These are snippets:</p>
<p>Moderator: Is it possible to find or fashion consensus in the use of public lands for working landscapes? The initial answer is NO.<br />
Panel:</p>
<p>Richard Walker: The guiding ideas of conservation have changed over the past 100 years. Recreation has changed from automobile sightseeing to backpacking ethic to &#8220;working landscapes&#8221; where many of us take pleasure in the idea. Working landscapes embody conservation easements and other ideas. Point Reyes is ambiguous because it originally embodied some initial ideas of working landscapes. Agrarian landscapes provide aesthetic value. This working landscapes idea is particularly popular in Europe with an &#8216;artisinal&#8217; use of the land.</p>
<p>Kelly Cash: We all see the land as something sacred. On t<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malpai_Borderlands" target="_blank">he Malpai</a> some hardcore preservationists and hardcore ranchers found common ground and the idea of &#8220;Working Wilderness&#8221; was born. In the Working Wilderness experience, the people and the wilderness work in a symbiotic relationship.</p>
<p>Amy Meyer: &#8221; &#8216;Wilderness&#8217; means something different to me.&#8221; She referenced the Wilderness Act. However, she noted that some people see wilderness as a &#8216;wild place.&#8217; &#8220;I don&#8217;t expect, for example, to encounter bicycles.&#8221; &#8220;No bicycles in wilderness.&#8221; &#8220;Wilderness, to me, is a very defined place.&#8221; &#8220;Being one with the universe.&#8221; &#8220;Civilization drops away.&#8221; &#8220;Temporarily, I&#8217;m a visitor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moderator: Are there not some sacred places, such as Hetch Hetchy?</p>
<p>Kelly Cash: Sacred things can have piety to them. There are sacred spaces. Hetch Hetchy is one of those sacred places. We will be remembered for what we innovate. We need to innovate as much as we possibly can.</p>
<p>Moderator: Perhaps we want it all. We want our wilderness next door.</p>
<p>Richard Walker: People are passionate about areas closest (in proximity) to them. We have intense feeling about close in areas because we grew up visiting these places when we were younger.</p>
<p>Moderator: Are there any areas that are hands-off?</p>
<p>Amy Meyer: &#8220;Wilderness!&#8221; It is something you can not bring back.</p>
<p>Moderator: How do we resolve this?</p>
<p>Kelly Cash: In my dream world there should be another blue-ribbon commission. &#8220;We&#8217;re Californians damn it! We innovate!&#8221;</p>
<p>Moderator: (inaudible)</p>
<p>Richard Walker: Every inch of acreage around the <a title="San Francisco Bay Area" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area" rel="wikipedia">Bay Area</a> has been fought over. &#8220;Wilderness is not a given state of nature, it&#8217;s a political idea.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The terrain has shifted.&#8221; &#8220;Public lands are disappearing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kelly Cash: &#8220;I think it&#8217;s a big mistake to say that fighting is the only way.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Moderator then opened the floor up to comments and questions. People generally made sub-audible statements to which one in the panel would respond.</p>
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<p>I came away with the impression that all the participants, Amy Meyer and Richard Walker in particular&#8211;and perhaps to a lesser extent Kelly Cash and Jon Christensen&#8211;felt that a pure form of Nature, with a capital N, exists. I disagree: it exists only as a construct of our imaginations. &#8220;Nature&#8221; is an ethos of those of us who are well off enough to not have to worry about mere survival. Nature and the &#8216;end of nature&#8217; is something we wax elegiac about when we no longer have to wrest food, clothing, and shelter from our environment on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I would have liked to have seen an economist with an interest in environmental issues on the panel. Hetch Hetchy the reservoir, as an example, may have been &#8220;sacred&#8221; to everyone in the room, but Hetch Hetchy the dam provides valuable water to a populace that would be in constant drought conditions without it. Hetch Hetchy Valley may be more valuable as scenery, but if it is restored to its earlier undammed state, other areas will then be pressed into service and water will be diverted from other &#8220;sacred&#8221; spaces for the needs of the people of San Francisco. We delude ourselves if we think that there are only benefits from those places or projects we support or want to preserve in a sort of amber (e.g. renewable energy and wilderness) and only costs for those resources we oppose the use of.</p>
<p>While the conversation&#8217;s goal was to find common ground for a way forward, it neglected to bring in economics as a mechanism to achieve that. Economics is the study of incentives. Richard Walker dismissed any place for economics at the table when he said, (paraphrased) &#8216;It is ludicrous to talk about &#8220;ecosystem services.&#8221; Money has no place in the discussion.&#8217; His point was that Nature is so important that it cannot commodified. I strongly disagree.</p>
<p>Finding the degree to which we humans can live with our alteration of a landscape will always be an economic question. Consider a thought experiment: would we want Point Reyes Seashore completely pristine if it took our entire <a class="zem_slink" title="Gross domestic product" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product" rel="wikipedia">Gross Domestic Product</a> to transform it to that magical/mythical state? You and I would live in complete poverty (i.e. less than $1.25/day) in order to have this seashore restored. We would have to forage for food by trapping animals every day. <a title="Point Reyes" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Reyes" rel="wikipedia">Point Reyes</a> might be a wonderland that only the wealthy elite can see but we would be happy that Nature had been saved at Point Reyes while (like the North Koreans) we pick kernels of corn out of pig excrement. Hallelujah. Praise Gaia. While this is an extreme example, you get my point. We can, and do, place price tags all the time on things like parks, clean water, and clean air. We just don&#8217;t usually think about it while we are doing this. We measure the cost of preserving land by looking at what we need to give up to have it preserved. And I would be willing to bet that none of the panelists would choose to preserve Point Reyes if they could never have enough money to get there, and its preservation took so much of our resources that the 99% could not eat.</p>
<p>Money and economics have to be part of the discussion.</p>
<p>Despite the monetizing of aesthetic and environmental services that parks and wildlands offer, economists do not try to put an exact and absolute price on these “commodities.” They just try to compare like with like. This comparing like with like is termed a cost-benefit analysis.</p>
<blockquote><p>What actually happens is that when a <a title="Cost–benefit analysis" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost%E2%80%93benefit_analysis" rel="wikipedia">cost benefit analysis</a> says that this marshland is worth £squiddelypop as a nesting and feeding area for wading birds the statement is not that you can take the marsh to the bank and in return get the cash for this £squiddelypop divided by four pints beer. Rather, it&#8217;s that by their actions, on average, humans behave as if the value of this marshland nesting and feeding area for wading birds is worth that multiple of the value they put on that many pints of beer. We are not claiming that anything has an absolute value: we are claiming that human beings seem to put this value on it as compared to the other value they put on that over there. The only reason that we put these values into pounds and pence is so that we can do sums.</p>
<p>Another way of putting this is that we are using commensurable values because all of the values we are using are the (<em>perhaps arbitrary, certainly subjective</em>) values that human beings put on these things.</p>
<p>Now we have our method, this cost benefit analysis. We have the values which we can slot into our sums. We must now work out which is a cost and which is a benefit: sums notoriously don&#8217;t work out if you get that bit wrong. &#8211; Tim Worstall, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Rainbows-Economic-Myths-Environmental/dp/1906768447" target="_blank">Chasing Rainbows</a> (emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, said another way, if you remove <a class="zem_slink" title="Hetch Hetchy Reservoir" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetch_Hetchy_Reservoir" rel="wikipedia">Hetch Hetchy reservoir</a> there will be a major loss of water to the people of San Francisco. The people who live in San Francisco would not have enough water to live there unless somebody else pays an environmental or monetary price (by diverting water from somewhere else). By relocating the dam to another place on the  Tuolumne River, another set of costs are incurred. There&#8217;s no such thing as a Free Lunch. Someone pays the bill.</p>
<p>I also came away with the feeling that Amy and Richard and most of the audience thought nature was static, that at some time before the 20th century or perhaps before the Industrial Revolution, but certainly before today, things were pristine and untouched. Just the opposite is probably the truth: that once we became wealthy enough to afford it, we could begin to set aside “natural” areas. I think that the fact that the discussion took occurred at all last night is a positive thing. And I think we need to keep talking.</p>
<h6 class="zemanta-related-title" style="font-size: 1em;">Further reading</h6>
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<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/04/MNCC1MJ2PA.DTL">Dan Lungren&#8217;s critics wary of Hetch Hetchy plan</a> (sfgate.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/22/MNQI1EEFBC.DTL">Anti-dam group questions Hetch Hetchy water</a> (sfgate.com)</li>
<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/14/BAC91MC1DV.DTL">Dan Lungren wants SFPUC probed over Hetch Hetchy</a> (sfgate.com)</li>
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